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UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
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02-01-2010, 05:12 PM
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UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
Quote:... This new tobacco control strategy establishes a vision of eradicating tobacco harms, describing aspirations and evidence-based policies under three objectives to deliver the vision: http://www.dh.gov.uk/dr_consum_dh/groups...111748.pdf It sounds like they want prohibition of smoke and tobacco but don't want independent (non medical) and effective smokeless or tobacco free products to be developed. They appear to want to regulate nicotine as a medical treatment. |
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02-01-2010, 05:28 PM
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
Quote:... This appears to say that nicotine has been classed as medicine and will only be available under medical regulations - apart from tobacco products. |
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02-01-2010, 05:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-01-2010 05:58 PM by Kate.)
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
So it turns out that MHRA and NICE also want to take recreational nicotine off the market.
http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Publications/Cons.../CON065617 http://www.nice.org.uk/getinvolved/patie...omment.jsp Triple whammy today. |
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02-01-2010, 06:47 PM
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
Man, this is starting to look worrisome, what do you think the ETA is going to be on regulated liquid nicotine? Governments are, thankfully, not very fast in implementing legislation, except when it comes to cyber crimes anyway, so we looking at 5 years, ten? Less? Can't seem to find info on this sadly.
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02-01-2010, 07:06 PM
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
This is from the MHRA consultation letter:
Quote:... Option 1 – Whether products containing nicotine should be considered by the Agency to be medicinal products by function and, if so, whether all unlicensed NCPs should be removed from the market within 21 days. Currently, MHRA operates a strict practice regarding the period of notice operators are allowed to comply with under the Marketing Authorisation Regulations following the classification of a product as medicinal. Given that these Regulations do not make explicit provisions for a staged withdrawal from the market of an unlicensed medicinal product, immediate cessation of the sale or supply is usually required by the Agency, with written confirmation of the same within 21 days. |
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02-01-2010, 07:12 PM
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
This is from the MHRA consultation letter too.
Quote:... Recent legal advice is that all products which contain nicotine which appreciably affect metabolism in normal usage may be within medicines legislation in terms of pharmacological action (medicinal by function)... I wonder if they're going to use that argument to take regulatory control of all substances that appreciably affect metabolism or maybe dopamine? Caffeine, sugar and dangerous sports could all have to be medicines. |
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02-01-2010, 07:45 PM
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
Quote:... The effects of nicotine itself are similar to that other popular drug, caffeine. See our (nicotine reading list.) There is no evidence that nicotine causes any substantial risk for cancer, and the research shows that the risk for cardiovascular disease is minimal. The confusion about nicotine comes from anti-smoking activists talking about nicotine and smoking as if they were the same. While it is true that people smoke mostly because of nicotine; nicotine users die mostly because of the smoke.http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/nicotine.htm I'm just looking for an article about Swedish snus. These were banned in the EU because they're not pharmaceutical products but in Sweden they've been something like 30% effective for smoke quitters - compared with 5% for approved pharmaceutical nicotine products. The banning of snus was a big public health disaster and it looks like ecigs are going to go the same way to protect pharm and tobacco companies monopoly. |
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02-01-2010, 08:17 PM
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
I'm really taken aback by today's developments and I cannot even crack a joke!
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02-01-2010, 08:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-01-2010 08:27 PM by Kate.)
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
Yeah, it's kind of sickening and totally counter productive from what I can see. I bet nobody has bothered to carry out an impact assessment or anything sensible, it's all about forcing an agenda on smokers and people who dare to enjoy nicotine.
If anybody wants to take action you can: Sign the UK petition - http://www.petitiononline.com/vaping/petition.html Write to the consultation committee at NICE Write to the MHRA on their consultation Write to your MP - http://www.writetothem.com/ Pass on the news and links to people you know so they can become involved too Any other ideas gratefully received. |
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02-01-2010, 09:20 PM
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RE: UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking
I'll definitely be starting to write letters I think, todays news is extremely worrying for us!
I wish I knew the right words to put in a letter, it's a shame we don't have any vapers that are solicitors.
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